[chris]

According to TheHip.com, Telus Mobile music users get access to another exclusive track - Skeleton Park.

This exclusive track garbage is starting to really piss me off. Couple it with the high ticket prices and my interest is fading...

[Joe]

According to TheHip.com, Telus Mobile music users get access to another exclusive track - Skeleton Park.

This exclusive track garbage is starting to really piss me off. Couple it with the high ticket prices and my interest is fading...

Ya, if these tracks aren't available via code in the cd like IVL I'm not going to be happy.

[daylight]

Ya, if these tracks aren't available via code in the cd like IVL I'm not going to be happy.

They won't be. Hence the "exclusive".

Well, I guess I'd better change cell phone providers, because it's immoral to download music for free.

[Lizard King]

According to TheHip.com, Telus Mobile music users get access to another exclusive track - Skeleton Park.

This exclusive track garbage is starting to really piss me off. Couple it with the high ticket prices and my interest is fading...

My feelings exactly, I wanted to get excited about all this but I find that Im not, not like I used to anyways. The prices are high and Im not happy about it, you have to assume the multiple shows and the smaller type venues are the cause. Thats fine, but Ive seen this band lots of times, so I really dont care. If they came to London and played somewhere besides the park I probably would buy a ticket.

[Graham]

What the hell does the band want me to do? Go out and get a Telus cell phone?

So if I have a different cell provider I'm SOL?!?!?!

....do bands WANT people to steal their music?

[EricStoner]

What the hell does the band want me to do? Go out and get a Telus cell phone?

So if I have a different cell provider I'm SOL?!?!?!

....do bands WANT people to steal their music?

No. They don't care if you buy a Telus phone or a Rogers phone or whatever phone. They just want the money from the company willing to pay them for a 1 song exclusive. If the band thought this song deserved to be on the main tracklist of the album for everyone to enjoy it would be.

If this one song is vital to your needs as an avid Hip Fan then I think there is nothing wrong with downloading it when its available. IMHO, downloading an exclusive track when you don't have the opportunity to get the song normally is a lot different from, say, stealing the entire album.

[Graham]

What the hell does the band want me to do? Go out and get a Telus cell phone?

So if I have a different cell provider I'm SOL?!?!?!

....do bands WANT people to steal their music?

No. They don't care if you buy a Telus phone or a Rogers phone or whatever phone. They just want the money from the company willing to pay them for a 1 song exclusive. If the band thought this song deserved to be on the main tracklist of the album for everyone to enjoy it would be.

If this one song is vital to your needs as an avid Hip Fan then I think there is nothing wrong with downloading it when its available. IMHO, downloading an exclusive track when you don't have the opportunity to get the song normally is a lot different from, say, stealing the entire album.

Well sure. If they thought "Hush" deserved to be on the album, they would have put it on there as well. Except for that one we pay an extra dollar for it's "bonus" status. I have a whole thread on here somewhere about how lame it is to peddle off your B-sides as bonus tracks.

This just goes a step further. Thing is, bands should be making it easier for people to purchase an album. Things like this make it harder...which "version" do you buy? Do you get the iTunes version, with bonus track "A"? Or the corporate whorage Telus version, with bonus track "B"? Or do you preorder the physical disc with your ticket purchase and get option "C", that comes with a live concert, but no bonus tracks? Decisions decisions...

See, a torrent site makes things easier for everyone. They have all versions, with bonus tracks A, B, C, D and E, and they have liner notes and album art and the whole enchilada. A torrent site gives the consumer one option: everything. A band, any band, these days, gives 3 or 4 or 5 options with an essay explaining what each one is and how things will go down. That's complicating and confusing to a lot of people. We're not talking about different album colours here a la Matt Good, different versions with different content is going to put the consumer in an awkward position, especially a loyal consumer, and especially in this age of free music.

[chris]

What the hell does the band want me to do? Go out and get a Telus cell phone?

So if I have a different cell provider I'm SOL?!?!?!

....do bands WANT people to steal their music?

No. They don't care if you buy a Telus phone or a Rogers phone or whatever phone. They just want the money from the company willing to pay them for a 1 song exclusive. If the band thought this song deserved to be on the main tracklist of the album for everyone to enjoy it would be.

If this one song is vital to your needs as an avid Hip Fan then I think there is nothing wrong with downloading it when its available. IMHO, downloading an exclusive track when you don't have the opportunity to get the song normally is a lot different from, say, stealing the entire album.

Well sure. If they thought "Hush" deserved to be on the album, they would have put it on there as well. Except for that one we pay an extra dollar for it's "bonus" status. I have a whole thread on here somewhere about how lame it is to peddle off your B-sides as bonus tracks.

This just goes a step further. Thing is, bands should be making it easier for people to purchase an album. Things like this make it harder...which "version" do you buy? Do you get the iTunes version, with bonus track "A"? Or the corporate whorage Telus version, with bonus track "B"? Or do you preorder the physical disc with your ticket purchase and get option "C", that comes with a live concert, but no bonus tracks? Decisions decisions...

See, a torrent site makes things easier for everyone. They have all versions, with bonus tracks A, B, C, D and E, and they have liner notes and album art and the whole enchilada. A torrent site gives the consumer one option: everything. A band, any band, these days, gives 3 or 4 or 5 options with an essay explaining what each one is and how things will go down. That's complicating and confusing to a lot of people. We're not talking about different album colours here a la Matt Good, different versions with different content is going to put the consumer in an awkward position, especially a loyal consumer, and especially in this age of free music.

It's kinda like Vista...

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[Tthip]

it's not the band i hate, It's their record company.

[Lizard King]

This brings me to something Ive been complaining about for a long time..why dont bands put out EP's and cd singles anymore?

Take Oasis for example, every album they drop 2 or 3 cd singles with "bonus" tracks, demos and b-sides. And for the most part alot of Oasis b-sides were pretty good songs. I would imagine most bands have solid tracks that dont see the light of day. An EP or cd single is a great inexpensive way to get them out there and generate some revenue. With the Hip's fanbase mostly in Canada maybe it wouldnt work for them, maybe it would..I dont know.

iTunes is a good service but I dont use it. I still think this is a scam, Im not sure how involved the band members are in these decisions. But I think THip hit it on the nose.

[Mooseheadbeer]

I think I'll buy it at a store rather than put it into the hands of the mailman/Fedex or my cellphone's DRM

[bow_of_defeat]

Yeah, why would I want to pre-order the album and wait 3-5 days after it's released to get it? Think I'll be strolling down to the ole Future Shop and picking this one up, extras be damned (regretfully).

[tigerthelion]

According to TheHip.com, Telus Mobile music users get access to another exclusive track - Skeleton Park.

This exclusive track garbage is starting to really piss me off. Couple it with the high ticket prices and my interest is fading...

Can't say that I disagree with you. I heard that some tickets are $90, too. What a joke. :? There's no way that I'd pay $90 to see The Hip. Frig, paying around $75 for the Charlottetown show in 2007 pissed me off enough.

Anyway, if these bonus tracks ever become available, I'm just getting them for free. Heck, I might just download the new album for free if this kind of sh*t keeps happening.

[Dark Canuck17]

I don't know I think you guys are getting a little worked up here. Go buy it support your band that we all love, every band around is doing the same thing and this all started because people are stealing the music.

They have been letting us tape/record their shows and share there music forever as well as giving us outstanding shows for great prices! You can't go to any bands concerts for any less than what The Hip are finally asking. Not to mention they have been giving us incredible music for over 25yrs do you think we can cut them some slack.

We should be celebrating this time it is not their fault the economy is shit that's our/your governments fault! :nooooo

[Chris4613]

I don't know I think you guys are getting a little worked up here. Go buy it support your band that we all love, every band around is doing the same thing and this all started because people are stealing the music.

They have been letting us tape/record their shows and share there music forever as well as giving us outstanding shows for great prices! You can't go to any bands concerts for any less than what The Hip are finally asking. Not to mention they have been giving us incredible music for over 25yrs do you think we can cut them some slack.

We should be celebrating this time it is not their fault the economy is shit that's our/your governments fault! :nooooo

Amen to that. Not going to like shelling out money for multiple concerts tomorrow, but really wouldn't like the feeling knowing they're performing 10 min away and I'm not there, lol. Economy sucks, nobody has money thats what credit cards are for :mrgreen: